tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post3337403819539241530..comments2023-09-03T02:08:29.107-07:00Comments on The TRUTH About Pit Bulls: The Truth About Pit Bull Ownersscurrilous amateur bloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-58307972771990439642015-12-29T10:00:22.405-08:002015-12-29T10:00:22.405-08:00I have to wonder if there isn't a category fou...I have to wonder if there isn't a category four: The animal profiteer. These people are real knowers of the breed and realize they can be dangerous, but also realize there is a lot of money to be made on rescuing, 'rehabilitating', and adopting out these dogs. They're also smart enough to realize if they were honest this couldn't work. So they stick to the propaganda talking points, and accept NO responsibility for placing dangerous dogs with delusional, ill informed owners. KaDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05386100556734258445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-65088755013903549602015-09-29T14:30:13.541-07:002015-09-29T14:30:13.541-07:00One of the biggest problems this breed has is low ...One of the biggest problems this breed has is low skill, low knowledge owners-who somehow know all the propaganda and call everyone else ignorant when they don't even know a pit bull is supposed to come with a break stick. Pit owners have little chance of NOT setting their dog up to fail if they can't even admit what is was designed for. KaDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05386100556734258445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-45774312213939154472015-06-22T12:26:05.879-07:002015-06-22T12:26:05.879-07:00Compassion for an animal that puts others at risk ...Compassion for an animal that puts others at risk is not compassion. It's favoritism. You favor the dog over the safety of others. <br /><br />Just because you "watch him like a hawk" and seek to distract him with treats (which btw does not work when they are set on an attack) is not at all comforting to the general public, your neighbors, your friends etc. In fact, most owners all have said the very same thing about their taking precaution. <br /><br />In summary, you are just like all the rest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-66346172379762193702015-06-21T10:55:16.300-07:002015-06-21T10:55:16.300-07:00you take a dog that you admit is dog aggressive an...you take a dog that you admit is dog aggressive and is not adoptable to a "dog beach" and you state that you are not an idiot.<br /><br />compassion and idiocy are not mutually exclusive traits. i don't care how many degrees you have acquired in biology. so you understand genetics, goody for you. how about sharpening your skills in the areas of logic, reasoning, ethics and public policy. and yes, you could very well be a compassionate human being, in some situations and towards some targets that you deem worthy, like that particular dog but you are completely lacking in compassion for the potential threat that your dog poses to the normal dogs out there. that makes you a reckless idiot.<br /><br /><br /><br />but please do keep us posted about your <a href="http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/2012/12/this-american-nutter-piney-files.html" rel="nofollow">dog aggressive, high energy, numerous food allergies pit bull</a>.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-65764031068500752302015-06-21T08:15:11.193-07:002015-06-21T08:15:11.193-07:00Generalizing about the people who happen to care f...Generalizing about the people who happen to care for pit bulls isn't really helpful. We are normal, educated, working people who happen to have found a stray pitbull puppy. (American Staph 50%, American Bull 25% and Staphie 25% through Wisdom Panel DNA testing). We took her to the shelter, but her owners didn't claim her. We live near an area where there is known pit fighting. We couldn't bear the thought of her being put down, so we decided to foster and rehome her. She seemed like a nice dog and got along with our dogs and cat.<br />She is not adoptable, we have found. This is due to some dog aggression, high energy, and numerous food allergies. So now we're stuck with her. I am a biologist, and understand the genetics of artificial selection. I know why she behaves the way she does, and am not "an idiot". I am just a compassionate human being, stuck with a pitbull that I will not allow to be killed. <br />Her dog aggression comes out when walking or when she's at the dog beach. We are extremely wary and watch her like a hawk. She responds well to fetch games and we can distract her from any mischief she might get into with treats and play. We certainly don't allow her out of our sight, or any even slightly aggressive behavior. <br />I hope people understand that there is not one or three or five types of pitbull caregivers. There are many. Perhaps as many as people who care for these overbred and difficult dogs.trudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705297892923693474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-32217164136842079102015-03-25T14:32:55.243-07:002015-03-25T14:32:55.243-07:00Anyway... ? Shouldn't that be a comma? Auto co...Anyway... ? Shouldn't that be a comma? Auto correct doesn't even getbthatv wrong.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09155470068618559411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-43555106762661442432015-03-12T14:16:09.126-07:002015-03-12T14:16:09.126-07:00"Is that maybe an indication that they lack c..."Is that maybe an indication that they lack common sense about these dogs because they lack the education required to think critically?"<br /><br />I think you are on to something.<br /><br />And good for you for not allowing your kids to play at the homes with a pit bull.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-79981175004388615662015-03-12T13:45:10.630-07:002015-03-12T13:45:10.630-07:00The family of a new friend of my 6yo daughter'...The family of a new friend of my 6yo daughter's owns a pit, so now I'm researching these dogs more closely. I can only assume the wife is #3 and the hubby is either #1 or 3. They have a pro-pit bull bumper sticker on their door. This dog regardless of its breed is what I consider not fully trained from what I understand that to mean (I've never owned a dog but we're researching breeds to get one, and so I've read some things about training, particularly the "alpha" concept). It jumps and begs at the table. And it is hyper and acts like a puppy even though it is 8. When I was bending over to tie my shoes after visiting at their house it jumped and knocked me in the chin so hard it hurt for a few hours. Its tail is like a whip on your legs. This is one VERY strong dog. One thing it won't do is get on the couch when people are sitting there, so it's obviously not just untrained at all. Just not as well trained as I am comfortable with for ANY dog but especially for one whose attack is much more often fatal than other breeds.<br /><br />From all the comments I've read so far on this site (like the Nanny Dog article, on which I read all the comments), one thing stands out to me very clearly: the fact that 90% of the pro-pit commenters cannot write to save their life. There were several I could barely understand. Is that maybe an indication that they lack common sense about these dogs because they lack the education required to think critically? As soon as I saw commenter "steve119" start out his sentence with "your right" on this article, I knew he was pro-pit. That's scary in itself!!<br /><br />Anyway... my daughter attended a sleepover at their house, but I will not be allowing that anymore. When they want to play they can come to our house or we can meet somewhere! I'll just arrange it that way for each instance, and if the mom catches on and wants to ask me about our avoidance of their house, I'll try to explain to her my concerns as tactfully as possible!Splash90https://www.blogger.com/profile/06953803156644741921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-5134117173501254742015-01-21T07:58:23.171-08:002015-01-21T07:58:23.171-08:00I am absolutely amazed at the sheer insight this a...I am absolutely amazed at the sheer insight this author has on the type of owner. These are all the thoughts swirling in my head and Ibe never seen them laid out in such a cohesive way. Thank you so much for writing this. I am sharing it with my family. We live in Memphis Tn and these dogs are everywhere and always fall under one if these categories. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-4974087955840468762014-09-23T15:07:25.535-07:002014-09-23T15:07:25.535-07:00I've never read a study like this. I just thou...I've never read a study like this. I just thought pit bulls were an aggressive breed. I guess with this I'll have to change my thinking. Maybe they just need better owners or better training. Either way I'll have to start rethinking my opinion of pit bulls. <a href="http://ironkingkennels.com/forsale.html" rel="nofollow"> http://ironkingkennels.com</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01511855752218553752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-87427219821069826982014-07-26T10:22:16.434-07:002014-07-26T10:22:16.434-07:00I am only now becoming aware of this and wondering...I am only now becoming aware of this and wondering why the general public is in the dark about a lot of this. Message has to be clear to these pitbull advocates that if they claim the problem is with dog owners then they should come up with a solution for the problem. Saying over and over again its "the owners" is not doing anything to stop the attacks on children ect. If not then they should expect some others from the public to come up with a solution. Children dying or getting maimed is sickening and it makes us American adults look like cowards in ketting this happen.The pitbull is banned all over Europe and many other countries . Seems they care more about their children safety than Americans do. This has to stop now. The uncaring attitude towards the safety of our kids is really appalling. Why are we worried about overseas terrorists if we got this happening in our backyard? We need to develop some sort of united front and protect our vulnerable citizens and let the public become aware of whats going on.davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03788977067981974775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-21857165570858022332014-06-07T10:16:05.321-07:002014-06-07T10:16:05.321-07:00Finally, someone who knows. Just do like me people...Finally, someone who knows. Just do like me people. Carry your gun and use it. And if the owner looks like he wants some, give him some too. That's the way to send the proper message to them crotch holdin' thugs. Don't be afraid to use your gun. They are wielding a deadly, commandable weapon and trying to use it for terrorism. And don't forget that last sentence when you get your lawyer to the courtroom. If thugs are going to be allowed to walk around wielding deadly, commandable weapons, then you, as an American, should have the right to defend yourself with deadly force. Court adjourned. Steauxdenbienerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12634722203635849032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-13182003162867376872014-06-02T23:00:27.292-07:002014-06-02T23:00:27.292-07:00My german shepherd and I were recently charged and...My german shepherd and I were recently charged and attacked unprovoked by a pitbull. In the 18 months I've had my gsd the three dogs that have shown true aggression to him Ave been pitbulls. Unfortunately, 4 days ago my neighbor had no control, no pinch/prong collar to contain the pitbull I didn't know she was "dogsitting". It broke it collar as it lunged and charged us. Luckily, praise God, our injuries were minor. But the terror of the horrific experience will never leave meAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06012344127997892147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-34860259266765440282014-05-16T12:09:35.173-07:002014-05-16T12:09:35.173-07:00Keep up the good work! I commend you for being res...Keep up the good work! I commend you for being responsible and putting down dogs with temperament issues. It is a difficult thing to do, Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16315013402976714161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-77515330105002823192014-04-25T06:42:20.729-07:002014-04-25T06:42:20.729-07:00I would like to respectfully add a fourth type of ...I would like to respectfully add a fourth type of pit owner: The careless ignorant. This owner maybe wasn't even looking for a dog, or perhaps got one on a whim. They stumbled upon the pit they ended up with (there are a lot of pits needing homes out there). Very little consideration is given to the fact that this is a potentially dangerous breed that requires special handling. And, as we have heard over and over, they can be sweet and loving pets. This type of owner is not big on research and preparation. And probably doesn't have a lot of money. They are likely to have kids and got the dog as a puppy because it was so darned cute. So, no fence, no vaccination or registration. The dog runs around the neighborhood unchecked. The owner is befuddled when neighbors complain or ask them to keep the dog home. They are even more confused when told that their animal has attacked and killed someone's pet (or child). They were not present at the attack because they pay little attention to the dog. But they will defend it without question because it has always been such a good dog, and their dog would never do that.<br />Good luck getting money to pay medical or vet bills from them. And, of course, the dog must have been provoked to attack, because he has always been such a sweetie.Farmer Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00761570534599459762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-55246999964348647352014-04-19T16:07:32.652-07:002014-04-19T16:07:32.652-07:00"So not all APBT's will attack kids."..."So not all APBT's will attack kids."<br /><br />no one claimed that every each and every pit bull would attack kids.<br /><br /><br />"Wouldn't have any other kind of breed."<br /><br /> thanks for sharing your own breed discriminatory opinion.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-7598914889586692732014-04-19T15:36:32.178-07:002014-04-19T15:36:32.178-07:00I just wish that APBT didn't get so much hatre...I just wish that APBT didn't get so much hatred. I have 4 APBT and every one of them are great. Not one is aggressive. They are the sweetest dogs. My 5 yr old niece is best friends with my 85 lb APBT male. They go every where together. They are inseparable. So not all APBT's will attack kids. Wouldn't have any other kind of breed. I love my pitties!! :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11036664971182508487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-11663345683146375062014-04-08T12:49:47.254-07:002014-04-08T12:49:47.254-07:00Actually, temperament is mostly genetic. If you b...Actually, temperament is mostly genetic. If you buy a puppy with a fear biting mother, regardless of breed and how it's raised, it will possibly be a fear biter. It's how the temperament of a breed can be ruined. The more popular the breed, the more chances for people to breed dogs that shouldn't be bred. Then we end up with evil little cocker spaniels (guess when they became known as biters? Right after "Lady and the Tramp came out!!) It caused fearful skittish Dobermans and GSD's, and why as a Vet tech, I get snapped at regularly by goldens and Labradors. Watched a 3 year old lab rip off half of a Drs face last week. She sat on a chair next to his owner, about 4 feet away from him. Wasn't looking at him, had finished his exam 25 minutes before. He just launched at her. Does it mean all goldens and labs will fear bite? No, but you'll see a lot more of them. They will account for more bites, but unlikely fatal because fear bites bite and run. And it's what's happened to the APBT. When the breed originated, those dog fighters culled biters, most had another breed as a guard dog. The fighting gene hasn't really changed much, they attacks started as dog fighting became a thug thing, a status thing. Kids fighting dogs on the street. Aggression towards anything was encouraged. And we end up with fatal pit bull attacks. But not all pit bulls attack or we'd all be dead. Some wouldn't put a tooth on a human. Some will bite if provoked, but they don't maul, and some will attack. To many questionable dogs breeding. It's why the owners of these dogs will say the dog attacked for no reason, etc. Because it's knowledge that makes the difference. I am a pit bull advocate, adore them and have owned 3, fostered 13. Not one bite from any of them. But I'm not so stupid as to say its all the owners fault, or the victims. There are vicious pit bulls who should be killed before they get a chance to hurt someone. I've put 2 down because of possible temperament issues. One was a 9 month old foster dog who growled at me if I came near him while he was eating. He only got 2 days with me. I'm sure I could have trained him not to, but I'm not giving any questionable dog a chance. The 2nd was a personal dog. Adopted him from a rescue and did everything I always do with my puppies. Socialized the crap out of him, took him everywhere. But I noticed that despite intense exposure to kids, at 11 months he started acting nervous around kids. No sign of aggression, no growing or anything, but he just didn't act like a pit bull should around kids, never totally relaxed and happy. I adored that dog, he was a great dog who may have never touched a child, but I would never give him he chance to, euthanized him 2 weeks after I noticed it. I cried for days, still sometimes wonder if he would have been ok, but I know I did the right thing. It's why BSL won't get rid of the problem. The people doing this to the breed don't care. You think the drug dealers and dog fighters pay attention to the law?? They'll still create just as many dogs, still do whatever is needed to make them maul innocent people, they'll just be dumped on the street. BSL won't stop the idiots who think if you love anything enough, andt kinda train them, the 200 pound guard dog type breed would never hurt your kids, no matter what they did. BSL will only affect the good dogs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05470206225445431944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-8669324080026953942014-04-04T21:16:17.845-07:002014-04-04T21:16:17.845-07:00Uh, just going to point out that goldens where bre... Uh, just going to point out that goldens where bred to retrieve ALREADY DEAD GAME, not hunt it. I have seen many goldens and other retrievers have no idea what to do with a live duck and showed no aggression. Also if it wasn't for blood sport you wouldn't even have pit bulls so really they should have never been bred to begin with so stop breeding the k -9 serial killers already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-60937375784629121532014-03-25T21:58:22.870-07:002014-03-25T21:58:22.870-07:00"Like a blood hound was made to be a better t..."Like a blood hound was made to be a better tracker or a golden retriever was made to hunt ducks and other such game pit bulls were bred to go after large and strong animals like bears and bulls. The tendency for them to bite and not let go was a trait we bred into them and should not be a mark for instant execution."<br /><br />it's a trait that serves no purpose in civilized society and should selected away from. if that is not possible, they should be spayed and neutered into extinction.<br /><br /><br />"If a pit bull attacks a person and has had a past history of aggressive behavior I do think it should be put down..."<br /><br />they should be euthanized whether they bite a person, a poodle or a pony.<br /><br /><br />"but to damn the whole type-which includes up five different dog breeds and mixed breeds-is not only unfair but opens up other breeds of dogs to similar discrimination."<br /><br />you just admitted that they were bred for violence and mayhem. that means the trait can predictably be found throughout the breed. that means the breed should either cease to exist or cease to exist in its present form. and you just made the argument in favor of it.<br />scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-13275157076594309682014-03-25T11:39:39.236-07:002014-03-25T11:39:39.236-07:00Pit bulls may have "killing genes" but i...Pit bulls may have "killing genes" but it is because the human race has put it there. You have to remember that every single dog breed on this planet is a descendant of the wolf that was specifically bred by humans to carry out various task. Like a blood hound was made to be a better tracker or a golden retriever was made to hunt ducks and other such game pit bulls were bred to go after large and strong animals like bears and bulls. The tendency for them to bite and not let go was a trait we bred into them and should not be a mark for instant execution. If a pit bull attacks a person and has had a past history of aggressive behavior I do think it should be put down but to damn the whole type-which includes up five different dog breeds and mixed breeds-is not only unfair but opens up other breeds of dogs to similar discrimination. Punish the deed not the breed!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16421421026169252779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-65071990903112140852014-03-20T17:24:13.627-07:002014-03-20T17:24:13.627-07:00I know what my pit bull is and the breed is not fo...I know what my pit bull is and the breed is not for the lazy or timid. You have to be very interactive and know boundaries. I have several breed of dogs all rescues. Depending on the situation depends on who might go off.<br /> One day i heard a commotion outside, dogs fighting. I opened the door to my pit ivy in the middle of the street fighting another pit. I came running with a baseball bat. As i was screaming my pit stopped as i ran up. The Stray dog took advantage and locked onto ivy's neck. I realized I ivy was standing over the family cat bilbo who was hurt really bad. I clocked the dog with bat and it went running. Ivy did not run after the other dog just laid down and started whining over bilbo. The neighbors told me that saw everything. The moment that bilbo got attacked Ivy jumped a six foot fence to protect her kitty. They both survived.<br />The pitbull breed has been destroyed and to tell the truth both most of them do need to be put down along with the breeders This is coming from a pitbull owner who has had great success with her dog.They are an expert level dog owned by idiots. Old Moss Womanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126530619212461666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-15496006566685250552014-03-14T19:42:36.004-07:002014-03-14T19:42:36.004-07:00steve119, here's your chance to dazzle us all ...steve119, here's your chance to dazzle us all with science. how about you write up a synopsis of all of those unnamed scientific articles and post them here. please include the article titles and authors.scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-86299686244835437812014-03-14T11:56:27.761-07:002014-03-14T11:56:27.761-07:00your right that these type of dogs tend to have th...your right that these type of dogs tend to have the wrong owners 90% of the time. But you are wrong about aggression being a genetic trait in dogs. It has been proven in studies done all over the world most recently by Bristol University in the UK. That aggression had nothing to do with genetics or the breed of a dog rather it was a learnt behaviour and the result of rearing.steve119https://www.blogger.com/profile/08579170442285147178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7544290607494171011.post-34612124622181848412014-03-14T09:05:02.279-07:002014-03-14T09:05:02.279-07:00Slynn, yes comments are regulated here. but they a...Slynn, yes comments are regulated here. but they are not regulated <a href="http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-truth-about-pit-bull-owners.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>scurrilous amateur bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00575387156203723911noreply@blogger.com